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Tuesday, June 11, 2013

Pope admits there is a "Gay Lobby" in the Roman Curia

...and hints that Traditional Catholicism ("restorationist groups") has no future


On June 6, 2013, the Pope received the presiding board of the CLAR (the Latin American and Caribbean Confederation of Religious Men and Women - Confederación Latinoamericana y Caribe?a de Religiosos y Religiosas) -- three nuns and three priests. A transcript of the pope's words was made by those present, and given to the Chilean ultra-progressive page Reflexión y Liberación (Reflection and Liberation) for exclusive publication.

Words in (parentheses) are part of the original transcript to provide the context. Words in [square brackets] were added by us to clarify language difficulties and explain a few points.

I share with you two concerns. One is the Pelagian current that there is in the Church at this moment. There are some restorationist groups. I know some, it fell upon me to receive them in Buenos Aires. And one feels as if one goes back 60 years! Before the Council... One feels in 1940... An anecdote, just to illustrate this, it is not to laugh at it, I took it with respect, but it concerns me; when I was elected, I received a letter from one of these groups, and they said: "Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries." Why don't they say, 'we pray for you, we ask...', but this thing of counting... And these groups return to practices and to disciplines that I lived through - not you, because you are not old - to disciplines, to things that in that moment took place, but not now, they do not exist today...

The second [concern] is for a Gnostic current. Those Pantheisms... Both are elite currents, but this one is of a more educated elite... I heard of a superior general that prompted the sisters of her congregation to not pray in the morning, but to spiritually bathe in the cosmos, things like that... They concern me because they ignore the incarnation! And the Son of God became our flesh, the Word was made flesh, and in Latin America we have flesh abundantly [de tirar al techo]! What happens to the poor, their pains, this is our flesh...

The gospel is not the old rule, nor this Pantheism. If you look at the periphery; the destitute... the drug addicts! The traffic of people... This is the gospel. The poor are the gospel... +

And, yes... it is difficult. In the Curia,* there are also holy people, really, there are holy people. But there also is a stream of corruption, there is that as well, it is true... The "gay lobby" is mentioned, and it is true, it is there... We need to see what we can do...

(Emphasis supplied)

+ "The poor are the gospel...” Pope Francis contradicts Jesus Christ in Matthew 26:11. The gospel is the good news about the coming of the Messiah, the Son of God. In the grace and spirit of Jesus Christ, tremendous compassion and concern are to be shown to the poor;  this is an action of the gospel, but it is not the gospel. The poor are not God (Acts 10:34; 1 Peter 1:17). The Gospel is the Way of Jesus Christ. Any pontiff truly concerned about the poor would shut the Vatican Bank, restore the ancient Catholic Church’s immutable law against interest on loans of money, and refuse communion to any unrepentant operator of a savings or commercial bank, "payday loan" or similar usury-based business. 

*Curia: The administrative apparatus and central governing body of the Catholic Church.

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