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Friday, August 20, 2010

Burning the Koran and the Talmud in Florida

Michael Hoffman | www.RevisionistHistory.org

Few acts could be more counter-productive than book-burning.

Though medieval Catholics are stigmatized for burning the Babylonian Talmud, the burning of the New Testament in the Israeli state is almost never mentioned.

The Talmud is a book that actually calls for the burning of Christian books. This is a startling and obscure fact. Because Michael Hoffman has dug it up, Internet critics of Zionism and the ADL will not tell their readers about it in their e-mailings lest they publicize Hoffman's research. Better that their readers are kept ignorant. No wonder we're losing.

"Rev." Terry Jones has agreed to burn the Koran and the Talmud in Florida next month. Islamic Prof. Akbar Ahmed comments on this state of affairs (see below). I do not endorse Ahmed's column.  Prof. Ahmed (see below) obviously knows nothing about the Talmud. He equates it with "Abrahamic faith," which is just too obtuse for words. On the other hand, his article demonstrates that Muslims throughout the world are shaking with rage at the thought of what Jones is going to do. Newt Gingrich calls NY mosque Muslims "Nazis." Someone is stoking the fires of the clash of civilizations. Someone wants to see nuclear war between the East and the West. Cui bono? Ask Jerusalem.

Prof. Ahmed imagines that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were ecumenical liberals. Early in his career Washington was a Freemason. In old age he let his membership lapse. During Rev. Morse's campaign against the Illuminati, Washington distanced himself from the occult. Nonetheless his early remarks to American Judaics about them being the "stock of Abraham" were absurd.

Jefferson was never a Freemason and despised Judaism and the Talmud, but he was too astute to persecute or suppress their theology or their unholy book. He understood that persecution and suppression are rabbinic traits. He didn't want to become like a rabbi in order to interdict rabbinic religion.

I have written extensively about Freemasonry in Early America in Revisionist History Newsletter no. 36 (http://revisionisthistorystore.blogspot.com/2010/03/hoffmans-revisionist-store-newsletters.html), and about Jefferson and the Talmud in my book, Judaism Discovered (pp. 88-93).

Toleration has its limits. Our nation's toleration of pornography, particularly on the Internet where it is accessed by children, is an abominable crime. We also tolerate foreign wars in our name paid with our tax dollars.

Barack Obama is viewed by Republican and Tea Party "Christian anti-Muslims" as far more hideous a president than George W. Bush. But Obama did not blow up the Twin Towers and building 7 of the World Trade Center in New York. Bush did. There is no comparison.

I can see how advocates of "Might is Right," such as pagans, atheists, Zionists and Talmudists would want to insult, hound and persecute all Muslims and burn their books.

I cannot seek how "Christian" Palin and "Christian" Gingrich can do so in the name of the God-man who said "Do good to those who persecute you." He gave no mandate for persecuting others. (Whenever I write this I get piles of mail from Catholics and Calvinists patiently explaining how Christ did indeed advocate the murder of His enemies. Please spare me. I have already read a vast amount of the literature of Catholic and Calvinist persecution advocacy. When the economy improves I will be able to finish writing my book on freedom of conscience and will gladly entertain criticism of my thesis after it is published).

For now I will say, if Christians are to be a light unto the world, including the Muslim and rabbinic world, let us expose their books and dispute and debate with them without resort to deliberate insults calculated to make a war-like people attack our troops and travelers.

This playbook is calculated to stoke the fires of the Israeli-Talmudic view of the Arab as Amalek, a creature with whom so-called "Jews" and their so-called "Christian" allies are to make war without end.

Don't blame the Old Testament for this. Judaism is not Old Testament, anymore than it is Jeffersonian. The God of the Old Testament said He would blot out the name of Amalek forever. He kept His promise thousands of years ago. In God's eyes "Amalek" is a dead issue.

It is the anti-Old Testament rabbis who have revived a faux Amalek because they need an irreconcilable and perpetual enemy. This is from the Talmud and the Kabbalah, the latter covertly inspiring anti-Judaics on the Right to regard "Jews" as a serpentine alien race that cannot be converted or reconciled to God; thus, war of extermination to the death on both sides of the playbook, and the devil rides.

I don't want to fight for the Muslims, who desperately need to learn and practice New Testament and Jeffersonian values. But neither do I want to go to war against them, for the rabbis, who are the nemesis of Christ and the antithesis of Jefferson — two facts never mentioned by Avodah Zarah Sarah, Bipolar Beck or their legion of kosher conservative imitators and followers.

By Akbar Ahmed | CNN | Aug. 20, 2010

Editor's note: Akbar Ahmed is Chair of Islamic Studies at American University in Washington and the author of "Journey into America: The Challenge of Islam" (Brookings Press 2010).

(CNN) -- In less than a month, Pastor Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center in Florida plans to host "Burn a Quran Day" to mark the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. The pastor, author of the book "Islam is of the Devil," is using the burning to urge American Christians to "stand up" to what he describes as a monolithic Muslim threat. A Facebook page for the event has accrued thousands of "likes" and Jones has said people have been mailing him Qurans to burn.

As a Muslim scholar, an adherent of one of the Abrahamic faiths -- Judaism, Christianity and Islam -- and as someone committed to interfaith understanding, I urge Jones to cancel this event. Not only are the actions of Jones contrary to the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, but they are also against the ideals of the American Founding Fathers.

The planned burning has already caused alarm in the Muslim world, with the pre-eminent Sunni university, Al-Azhar in Cairo, Egypt, condemning it as "stirring up hate and discrimination."

At a recent dinner in Washington, a host for one of Pakistan's top TV channels confided in me that he "didn't dare" report the story because if he did, "not a single American would be safe in Pakistan." He and the cameraman were quivering with anger as they asked me to explain why Americans hated Islam.

I tried my best to explain this was not the case, but Jones' burning will have great symbolic significance to a Muslim world already feeling under attack by the United States. It will cause undue harm to U.S. relations with the Muslim world and particularly the war effort. Gen. David Petraeus, the head of American forces in Afghanistan, has repeatedly expressed the need for winning the "hearts and minds" of local people by treating them with dignity and respect. When Afghans see that their holy book is being burned, it will cause riots and attacks that will put U.S. troops further at risk. There will be similar riots and attacks in neighboring Pakistan and Iran. It will inflame the entire Muslim world and fuel acts of terrorism.

It could also inflame anti-Muslim sentiment in the United States, especially in the context of the anger over the proposed Islamic center near ground zero in Lower Manhattan. Many American Muslims will feel as if they are second-class citizens and it could push some angry young men toward violence.

On my recent fieldwork trip to 100 mosques in 75 American cities with a team of American researchers for the book "Journey into America: The Challenge of Islam," we documented that many mosques had been attacked, sometimes bombed. In May, not far from Jones' church in Gainesville, a pipe bomb exploded in a mosque in Jacksonville.

As objectionable as the prospect of Jones' Quran burning is, it may not cease with the holy book of the Muslims. I have always maintained that this kind of vitriolic hatred of one religion is a descent on a slippery slope, as no one can say who will be next. I was not surprised, therefore, when I heard Jones recently agree, when asked to do so in an internet podcast interview, to burn "a couple of copies of the Talmud" too.

Not only does the burning of holy texts reflect the darkest days of medieval Europe and Nazi Germany, but it is hard to think of anything more un-American, by the definition of the Founding Fathers themselves.

George Washington welcomed the Jews to America as the "stock of Abraham" while John Adams showed the utmost respect for Islam, naming the Prophet Mohammed as one of the greatest truth seekers in history. Benjamin Franklin called him a model of compassion.

The Founding Fathers read and honored the same Quran that Jones is now seeking to burn. Thomas Jefferson kept the same Quranin his personal collection and it informed his decision to host the first presidential iftaar during Ramadan.

The Founding Fathers were also inspired by Christian thinkers like John Locke, who declared that the true Christian's duty was to "practice charity, meekness, and good-will in general toward all mankind, even to those that are not Christians."

I consulted many distinguished Abrahamic friends for this article, all concerned with the drift toward intolerance exemplified by Jones' threat, who were happy to endorse this article's content and language.

They include the Episcopal bishop of Washington, the Right Rev. John Chane; Senior Rabbi Bruce Lustig of the Washington Hebrew Congregation; Imam Mohamed Magid, executive director of the ADAMS Center in Northern Virginia; Pastor Dr. Robert Norris of Palm Beach, Florida's, Royal Poinciana Chapel and member of the Presbytery of Tropical Florida; the Rev. Carol Flett of the Washington National Cathedral, the Rev. Dr. Clark Lobenstine of the Interfaith Conference of Metropolitan Washington; Sister Maureen Fiedler, Sister of Loretto and host of Interfaith Voices, and too many others to name.

At the core of the Abrahamic faiths, these esteemed figures represent the need to show compassion and understanding of others. By threatening to burn the holy books of two of these faiths, the Quran and the Talmud, Jones is violating the basic tenants of all the Abrahamic faiths and doing something that is unacceptable by any standard of religion. As an adherent of one of these faiths, Islam, and one who respects the other faiths, I implore Jones as a Christian and an American to cancel his burning event, follow the true teachings of Jesus by loving his neighbor, and engage in respectful dialogue instead.



Anonymous said...

In the past few months when I pass by a Talmudvision tuned to the "news," I see the talking heads stoking the fires of race hatred: a black USDA bureaucrat said mean things about white farmers, white people saying mean things about brown people, brown people saying mean things about white people, many people saying mean things about Muslims—NOBODY saying anything accurate about the holy genocidal hypocrites. The Master Race says nothing about its crimes against humanity.

I ask myself what I always do when I see or hear "news": WHY are they showing this? WHAT are they trying to make me believe? WHY do they want me to believe that? WHAT is the nefarious outcome they are trying to manipulate?

ANSWER: The brainwashers want the victims to fight each other. The perpetrators of our misery do not want us to look at their mansion on the hill lest we notice their crimes against humanity—economic, physical, and spiritual genocide, murder of both body and soul—lest we do something effective to stop them.


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Michael Hoffman said...

Dear ...Irish

True, atheists might be pacifists, aggressors, peace-lovers, war-lovers or whatever, therefore, Might is Right is indeed one atheist option; but it is NOT an option for Christians — hence the distinction.

Unknown said...

Finally I get an idea of who you truly are Mr. Hoffman. Bravo to you for writing this article!
For several months now I have been reading your blogs after I read your book "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare." I have agreed with you to a point (a fool would not be able to see that there is something subversive going on in the government of the USA, not to mention the world) but was worried that YOU were stoking vitriol against certain religions. I kept wondering what was your angle?
Finally, you actually say that you abide by the golden rule and that was evident in this article; it has not been obvious in the past.
You simply are exposing and extolling discourse of your subjects through your research and writings. The truth hurts and that is why you and your work get such ugly criticism from these deeply entrenched [unwitting] Pro-Zionists.
Despite the beauty of self-determination and defending our freedoms and passing liberty on to my children, and despite you and those like you exposing these horrid people, isn't this all inevitable anyways? Isn't it written in the Apocalypse that the temple of Solomon will be rebuilt, the Antichrist will come, Jesus wins and we live with God for 1000 years? What's wrong with that, if we are willing to go through the tribulation to get there? Or am I being hoodwinked on this also?
Anywho, I appreciate your research and also being "awoken" by your writings. Now that I understand your intentions, I think, I may invest in further enlightenment. I am looking forward to that thesis on freedom of conscience! God bless you.

Michael Hoffman said...

Dear Michael

Where does it say in the last book of the New Testament that the third temple will be rebuilt?

What is at stake is the salvation of men and women and the great question of where they will spend eternity. If we die in our sins we are lost forever.

Are we living in a post-modern world that is conducive to our personal salvation or destructive of it?

As for the inevitability of sin, Jesus said: "Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!” Matthew 18:7.

Unknown said...

Well said. If WE die in our sins WE are lost forever. As long as my family and I are aware of the evils of this world and the salvation our rejection of those evils brings, why should I care about those who don’t want to listen?
[Using that insight, however, if it wasn’t for your writings on the Old Testament vs. The Talmud; I wouldn’t have known there was a difference. Therefore, I appreciate your vigilance.]
So why do you care? I’m sure this has not been an easy choice.

bw said...

"Someone is stoking the fires...Cui bono?...and the devil rides."


"Bush did". I assume that you realize this is too simplitic as to who actually is behind the false flag operation. He (as a member of a family serving the Elite) was certainly in place for a reason (his manipulated reaction) and I understand your point is most likely that both the supposed "Right v. Left" in America is a controlled Dialectic by the Cryptocracy (your word from SSandPW). Obviously the "conservative Republican Right" doesn't see the part they are playing in the "playbook", and this is what i take your emphatic "Bush did" to mean - that it is error to be controlled by either side of the Dialectic and it's Divide and Conquer, Order ab Chao strategy.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Hoffman, what do you think of the following quotes by Jefferson? He certainly appears to have been a defender and fellow traveler of Illuminism and freemasonry, even if he was not a member himself. On the other hand he was one of the most eloquent defenders of liberty among the founding fathers so it is hard to know what to make of him.

"Weishaupt believes that to promote this perfection of the human character was the object of Jesus Christ. That his intention was simply to reinstate natural religion, & by diffusing the light of his morality, to teach us to govern ourselves. His precepts are the love of God & love of our neighbor. And by teaching innocence of conduct, he expected to place men in their natural state of liberty & equality. He says, no one ever laid a surer foundation for liberty than our grand master, Jesus of Nazareth. He believes the Free masons were originally possessed of the true principles & objects of Christianity, & have still preserved some of them by tradition, but much disfigured. The means he proposes to effect this improvement of human nature are "to enlighten men, to correct their morals & inspire them with benevolence. Secure of our success, sais he, we abstain from violent commotions. To have foreseen, the happiness of posterity & to have prepared it by irreproachable means, suffices for our felicity. The tranquility of our consciences is not troubled by the reproach of aiming at the ruin or overthrow of states or thrones." As Weishaupt lived under the tyranny of a despot & priests, he knew that caution was necessary even in spreading information, & the principles of pure morality. He proposed therefore to lead the Free masons to adopt this object & to make the objects of their institution the diffusion of science & virtue. He proposed to initiate new members into his body by gradations proportioned to his fears of the thunderbolts of tyranny. This has given an air of mystery to his views, was the foundation of his banishment, the subversion of the masonic order, & is the colour for the ravings against him of Robinson, Barruel & Morse, whose real fears are that the craft would be endangered by the spreading of information, reason, & natural morality among men. This subject being new to me, I have imagined that if it be so to you also, you may receive the same satisfaction in seeing, which I have had in forming the analysis of it: & I believe you will think with me that if Wishaupt had written here, where no secrecy is necessary in our endeavors to render men wise & virtuous, he would not have thought of any secret machinery for that purpose."
-Thomas Jefferson to Reverend James Madison, Philadelphia, January 31, 1800
The Works of Thomas Jefferson in Twelve Volumes. Federal Edition. Collected and Edited by Paul Leicester Ford.

"As revolutionary instruments (when nothing but revolution will cure the evils of the State) [secret societies] are necessary and indispensable, and the right to use them is inalienable by the people."
-Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1803. FE 8:256

Michael Hoffman said...

To Anonymous 3:23 p.m.

Permit me to take up your last attribution to Mr. Jefferson (Jefferson to Duane), first. Your quote has been redacted to look the opposite of what Jefferson is actually saying. Notice the words in brackets that someone has put in Jeffersons’s pen (“[secret societies]”). He does not use that term in this passage which is longer than you have quoted.

Jefferson refers to “those bodies whose organizations are unknown to the Constitution” which can mean a laborer’s union that protects its members from the prying eyes of the state. There is no evidence he is referring to an occult secret society, as you imply.

Moreover, in a passage you have omitted he calls these organizations, “foreign” to the Constitution.

You can read the entire passage in context on pp. 256-257 of "The Writings of Thomas Jefferson," vol. 8 (Putnam’s, 1897).

The first quote about Weishaupt reveals many of Jeffersons’s failings in terms of his naivete and hatred of organized religion, which colored his judgement unfavorably. For him to think that Weishaupt was a sincere Christian reveals his gullibility. His attacks on Jedediah Morse in particular are sordid and unworthy of him.

However, the acid test of any occultist is their stand on Judaism and the Talmud. Jefferson would endorse neither. He was a deist with utopian tendencies and this was his signal defect and failure. He was not a conspirator however for the simple fact that there is no evidence that he ever lent a helping hand to Judaism or had anything good to say about the Talmud or Kabbalah.

One more datum: conspirators of the Illuminati type almost always work for a two-tier legal system, with special privileges for one class of the self-chosen. All of Jeffersons’s statecraft was dedicated to one standard of law for everyone, and this is our inheritance today.

Anonymous said...

On the web I saw a Homosexual in his sidewalk protest ripping out pages of the Bible. It is told that proud homosexual Lord Of the Rings actor Ian McKellen 'Proudly' Rips Leviticus 18:22 Out of All Bibles:

Anyone complaining about that?

Personally that is his personal beliefs but it is also destroying someone else's property and he should pay for a new Bible everywhere he does this. What's the difference between this "protest" and burning a Koran?

As a Christian if someone took a Bible they had and owned and ripped out pages in front of me I could care less. It's only a book and unless you ripped those pages from my Gutenberg Bible I would say that is your right and obviously there is something in that Bible that bothers you and you need some Psychiatric help. As to this Koran burning I'm not really happy with this situation because as a Christian I deal with a religions belief system not in a books literal pages but fighting it with TRUTH. The Bible Say's:

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Any "mature" Christian would realize that is all we need to fight any false belief system.
This Christian Pastor makes it his aim to blame 9-11 on he Muslims which to me is wrong. They have not been tried in court and If anything, evidence is implicating Israel in some shenanigans here so that would NOT be a good reason to burn the Koran, you might as well burn the Talmud if that is the case. I am not a fan of Islam. For the Muslim people themselves to be so enraged about this shows me that they obviously have some issues with their supposed truth. WWMD, What would Mohammad Do? That is the big question.

Joe Rizoli

WLindsayWheeler said...

Contrary to you Mr. Hoffman, I have read many places that Jefferson was a Mason.

America is a Masonic Country. Its values and ideas are Masonic. Freemasonry is heavely influenced with Kabbala. Tolerance and Diversity are Masonic goals and values. Not Roman Catholic.

I suggest for your reading Nihilism, The Root of Revolution in the Modern Age by Father Seraphim Rose. Liberalism, as he states, is the first stage of nihilism. America is nihilist. The FFofA are nihilist because they are liberals.

The basis of Western culture is Paramenides principle of non-contradicition. What liberalism does is break this idea for it allows non-congruous, non-related and even total opposites to co-exist. No society can operate on that and so any society based on liberalism fails. America is full of cognitive dissonance.

Anonymous said...

Dear Michael,

I just want to say how much I enjoy reading your articles. I've been trying to get hold of your books (Judaism discovered and Secret Societies) but here in the UK they cost a bomb. I'm not trying to detract from the hard work and effort you've put into writing them, it's just that money's hard to come by these days as you know. However I am saving up and looking for an American retailer that will sell overseas your books.

However, there's one dilemma that I continue to see regarding the defense of the west.
If we do nothing that is allow Islam and Judaism to grow as it is then it will spell the continuing demise and persecution of Christianity. If we do attack back, then as you say "the devil rides."
Therefore we're caught within a rock and a hard place.
Already here in the UK our society is being ripped apart by hate, religious & racial hatred laws all wrapped up in political correctness and civil law. There is a movement (of which I'm part of) called lawful Rebellion to take back our common law and liberties, but again, this is being bitterly opposed by the authorities whom see their power slipping down the pan.

What amazes me about the article is that do these Christians in the USA forget the book burnings of the 3rd Reich? Don't they realise that burning books, in this case the Qur'an won't make it go away? Are the people of the USA completely oblivious in seeing their actions are leading up to another massive war resulting in yet more gentile deaths for the Jews?
Sure, the media merely control their every movement, thought and desire but you would think that somewhere deep within their conscience would be fighting back.

It saddens me deeply. The ignorance is overwhelming, but yet expected while America (and the UK) swims within the ignorance of the main stream media sea. I think that the only way people will ever wake up to reality is by removing themselves forthwith any control of it. I no longer watch TV, listen to the radio or purchase papers/magazines.

My question to you though Michael, is what can be done realistically? You are but one man, a very knowledgeable and learned one, but you really are pissing against a tsunami about to engulf you and all those around.
I believe that inevitability cannot be stopped and another dark age must be thrust upon society for they continue not to learn and remain ignorant of what is happening around them.

In the meantime I'll still keep looking for your books, albeit at a far cheaper price than what they're being advertised as.

Michael Hoffman said...

Dear W. Lindsay Wheeler

If you think Freemasonry is tolerant then you don’t know your subject or its history. You are accepting masonic self-advertising at face value —always a mistake when dealing with professional liars.

Freemasonry is a counter-church, with rules more rigid than the Church itself, including, in certain circumstances, violent intolerance of those who oppose or expose it or its rabbinic allies.

Read my book “Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare” and then come back and talk.

You seem to despise America. Are you an American and do you reside in America? If so, perhaps you might exhibit the virtue of gratitude to those who founded this nation and afforded you the freedom you enjoy.

I notice traditional Catholics who contradict Pope Pius XII and hate their Fatherland, often have to deal with a significant amount of rebellion against their own fatherhood on the part of their wives and children. Could there be a connection?

Michael Hoffman said...

Dear Harbinger

Britain is in many respects a police state. This is a feature of the “Commonwealth” nations too, like Canada and Australia. There was never a revolution against the Crown, save for the 17th century Puritan uprising and John Milton bitterly lamented the fact that the English actually requested that their monarchial chains be reimposed with the kingship of Charles II.

The old boy masonic network in Britain, allied with the rabbinic establishment, is the overwhelming power, threaded as it is through the aristocracy, finance and the media.

I advise that your freedom movement do as Gandhi did in India. All of his tactics are open to you in the UK and seem seasonable from the Christian perspective.

However, if the British people are content to be fanatical consumers of football, worthless music and mindless celebrities as their chief time expenditure, then they will get what they deserve when Old Blighty is completely overrun by the empire’s former colonials.

Without Christ and Christian methods I don’t see how you will “take your nation back.” But after 80 years of Anglican liberalism the British are saying what Robert Graves said to the Church as far back as 1918, “Goodbye to all that.”

But what do you replace your ancient Christian heritage with? Neo-fascism? Christian Heritage must be more than a slogan, as it is for the BNP -- using it to hit the Muslims with. It must be a faith that is lived, a Bible that is read, and Christian laws and standards that are kept. If it is just a slogan, people will soon see through the hypocrisy. You need a truly Christian conservative leader.

Thomas Malthus was a clergyman. The Anglican Church was the first major Christian denomination in the world to adopt artificial birth control as an alternate lifestyle for married couples. Your doom was complete then. Your masters have always hated and feared hordes of English children. Now many English hate and fear hordes of Pakistani children. The cycle is complete.

The disaster in which you find yourself will not be reversed in a year or even a decade. It may take a century. You must take the long view and start by reforming yourself, your wife and family and build from there.

My prayers are with you.

Anonymous said...

Dear Michael,

A most eloquent reply if I may say so and my sentiments exactly!

We've never had any freedom within the UK, well that is not for a long time. As you no doubt know the English Revolution that you speak of had nothing to do with breaking the shackles of Feudalism, merely a breather in order to allow the exiled Jews back into the UK with which to start controlling even more and making royalty even more wealthier. Oliver Cromwell was no hero, even though the MSM continues to make him so, as is to be expected.

Just how deep is the masonic network? Being a Scotsman I know that the Scottish rite of Freemasonry is one of the oldest and holds much power, hence why there was never any bombing of the IRA in Scotland at the time of 'the troubles.' And just how deep is rabbinical control within the establishment? This is something I've been researching, hence why I'm looking forward to reading your books.

As I have also written many times, our society lives off of football, celebrity and MacDonalds. It parrots what the media tells them to do, think and say. It cares little for reality and unless it wakes up hasn't a clue of the hell that awaits them, or should I say their children and future generations.
It is ironic that you mention the BNP for they were the only party that warned of the power of Zionism and now they've all of a sudden stopped? They no longer discuss anything to do with Zionism and now support Israel, well at least, respect their actions to defend themselves, because at the moment the BNP is on a serious anti Islam trip.
I won't deny that Islam isn't growing. I won't deny that areas of Northern, Central and South East England are turning into Islamic ghettos, yet what do you expect? Islam does as Islam does and has sought control of every land it's been in. Unlike Christianity and Colonialism, ask yourself how many lands Islam has given back to 'the natives?' My problem Michael is really not with Muslims although it was at a time until I woke up and I do see that Islamisation is very possible. My problem is with those who have allowed Islam in and to grow along with every other culture and people in this world to the detriment of the indigenous peoples?


Anonymous said...

Do you believe that artificial birth control was the real problem? I think I'd go so far as to say the Jewish created rise of second wave feminism and the civil rights movement (in the USA) created the madness there is today here in the UK. Then add to that a welfare system that's geared 100% towards helping single parents stay single! I won't deny that artificial birth control stops children being created but that's purely a physical control whereas feminism controls the very mind, demeans mothers, family and of course men.

Michael, the disaster we have here in the UK is here for a very long time (and will sweep the USA, Canada, Australia and NZ). I truly believe that the only time we'll have any chance of breaking free from it is when a great depression sweeps the UK, the streets run red with blood as Enoch Powell predicted and people start smashing the mirrors, blowing away the smoke and dragging the men, from behind the curtains, kicking and screaming from their machinations and destruction of our society. There will be no 11th hour reprisal as many believe.
I see no fairytale ending whatsoever. What will happen will happen and many good men will be corrupted in due course.
Sadly the Harbinger is never heeded.

However to finish on a positive note I believe that once you hit rock bottom there's only one place to go. I think we're on our way there very soon, if not touching its edges. I do foresee great suffering and strife, but there's no better way to educate people by them experiencing it for themselves instead of from the pages of a book. If we do not learn from history we are destined to make the same mistakes over and over. If people continue to allow their liberty to be removed from them then they ask for the oncoming oppression of their lives.

Been a pleasure Michael, but I feel that although things are going to get a lot worse it will eventually wake many people up into action.

All the best and thank you.

Anonymous said...

Harbinger at 2:19 states: "I won't deny that artificial birth control stops children being created but that's purely a physical control whereas feminism controls the very mind, demeans mothers, family and of course men."

Ah, but if it were only that simple. Unfortunately, it is not. Artificial birth control is in the objective order a mortal sin (Google it!). There are actually unimaginably severe potential consequences, and actually self-imposed consequences at that, for mortal sin. My Catholic Faith informs me (correctly by the way) that a person who dies in the state of mortal sin is damned for all eternity.

Aside from the very possible consequences of hell, mortal sin inevitably darkens the intellect and works to enslave the will. It also, and to use your very words, "demeans mothers, family and of course men." But more than that -- it demeans human life itself and one could even say it demeans God and His rightful authority ("Be fruitful and multiply.") if that were possible.


P.S. What I have said here is commonly lost on those, including Catholics, who practice artificial birth control which could be said to be a confirmation of the darkening of the intellect -- and hardening of the heart which usually follows.

Anonymous said...

“Do you want to burn the Quran?”

If you want to burn the Quran I invite you to read it first.

Then it is your choice to proceed; You will figure out that:

You will be burning Adam and Noah, Abraham and Issac, Jacob and Josef, David and Salomon, Moses and John….and all prophets and saints
You will be burning Jesus and his saint spirit ….
You will be burning Mary and her baby ….
You will be burning the Torah and the Bible ….

Go ahead
Burn the light to satisfy your darkness….
Burn the love to satisfy your hatred….
Burn the peace to satisfy your anger….
Burn the compassion to satisfy your cruelty….
Burn the knowledge to satisfy your ignorance….

Do all the above in your heart only….
Oh wait; would you still have a heart after the above?! Would you be Christian or Jewish, would you be even human?!

The Quran won’t be affected of what you would do, because the creator said about it:
“Surely We have revealed the Reminder and We will most surely be its guardian.” 15-9

You would burn the papers of the Quran, but even by burning it, it will show light… to all man kind.

It will keep saying: “Their intention is to extinguish God's Light with their mouths: But GOD will complete His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).”61-9

And it will keep saying: “And the servants of the Beneficent God are they who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant address them, they say: Peace!”25-63


Hassan Yaghi, Seattle, Wa
Aug 26, 2010