tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post3003463946468801645..comments2024-02-03T08:32:18.692-08:00Comments on On the Contrary: Two parts: Expulsion of the “Jews,” and "Losers Inc."Michael Hoffmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09485741729327325322noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post-70239924771128622392014-09-23T10:34:27.798-07:002014-09-23T10:34:27.798-07:00I was incorrect in having thought I had read that ...I was incorrect in having thought I had read that St. Hugh had visited St. Bernard of Clairvaux and or corresponded with him. He was, however a devotee of St. Bernard and did visit Clairvaux shortly after Bernard's death and near the end of his own life. Maurice Pinayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12398411396371959771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post-64865568671184635952014-09-23T09:33:13.109-07:002014-09-23T09:33:13.109-07:00I cannot bear to let reports of Christian riots ag...I cannot bear to let reports of Christian riots against 'the Jews' stand as they usually are understood, as evidence of some perennial "psychosis of antisemitism."<br /><br />While I entirely oppose violence against Judaic persons on the grounds of morality and also on the grounds of it being an entirely self-defeating tactic, I seek to understand why these episodes have happened, truthfully. The truth is that we are not descendants of psychotic 'anti-Jewish' savages.<br /><br />From The Life of Saint Hugh of Lincoln, edited by Herbert Thurston, Hugh is described as facing down an 'anti-Jewish' mob at Lincoln Cathedral as he had in two other instances. Hugh is described as doing so with supernatural zeal and courage. Finally, it is asked what motivation the rioters may have had, and I quote:<br /><br />---<br /><br /><i>We may be inclined to ask why the Cathedral of Lincoln became the scene of such a tumult. It is probable that the Jews had deposited there, as the safest place they knew of, the deeds connected with their loans and mortgages. This is what they had done in the case of York Minster, but there the guardians of the Cathedral were compelled by the mob to give up these papers, and allow a huge bonfire to be made of them in the very nave of the church itself. If the rioters had the intention of doing the same at Lincoln, the intervention and the attitude of St. Hugh are sufficiently explained.</i><br /><br />---<br /><br />Now it must be understood that at the same time that St. Hugh and his associate St. Bernard of Clairvaux were defending 'the poor Jews' (in fact usurers who were bleeding the community dry) from violence with, by all accounts, fanatical zeal, they were simultaneously urging crusaders to slaughter. <br /><br />Please ponder this. I submit that the good old days were not very different than our own.<br />Maurice Pinayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12398411396371959771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post-73514125307652059272014-09-21T07:49:30.555-07:002014-09-21T07:49:30.555-07:00To W. Lindsay Wheeler
The absurd thesis of Eric N...To W. Lindsay Wheeler<br /><br />The absurd thesis of Eric Nelson’s book is that the political freedoms that we enjoy today have their roots in the rabbinic commentaries that "explain” the Hebrew Bible. This notion is straight out of Yeshiva University’s law school. If you want to believe it, go ahead. <br /><br />Even the title of Nelson’s book is dishonest: if the freedom of a republic is derived from the Talmud and the Midrash then it is “The Aramaic Republic,” since that is the principle language of the rabbis in their texts. A true Hebrew Republic would be strictly Biblical, and contra the Talmud and Midrash, but that truth is heresy in Nelson’s eyes.<br /><br />Eric Nelson is ceding ownership of the Hebrew Bible to the rabbis, with Christians as late-arriving usurpers of what is rabbinic property.<br /><br />To claim that the overthrow of the tyrant Charles I was inspired mainly by Puritan consultation of the Midrash, or that anything other than a handful of "Cromwell’s Leveller Coalition” styled themselves “Talmudic Commonwealthsmen” is to be seduced by rabbinic propaganda. On p. 26 Nelson cites exactly one Puritan as alluding to a Talmudic Commonwealth.<br /><br />If you believe Nelson, then there is no significant Christian understanding of Deut. 17:14 and I Sam. 8 independent of the rabbis that leads to the conclusion that a king can be overthrown and executed. In order to proceed with that stupidity Nelson resorts to the old tactic of omitting key facts and personalities. Most outrageous in this regard is his exclusion of all mention of William Prynne, leader of the anti-Talmudic Puritan coalition.<br /><br />There is no question that there was a Judaizing, Talmudic influence over some Puritans, just as there was among some royalists. The fact is, contrary to nonsense peddled by people like Ramsay in “The Nameless War,” the Judaizers were rebuffed by the Puritans. Cromwell’s objective of Judaic readmission was crushed by his fellow Puritans.<br /><br />The dreams of England's Judaizers had to await the “resortation” of King Charles II to the throne; that is when the Talmudic/Midrashic praxis gained firm purchase and not before, as I endeavor to demonstrate in Revisionist History issue no. 74.<br />Michael Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09485741729327325322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post-72312015058458897102014-09-20T16:56:54.632-07:002014-09-20T16:56:54.632-07:00So I am wondering if you read Eric Nelson's Th...So I am wondering if you read Eric Nelson's <i>The Hebrew Republic</i> where Oliver Cromwell's Leveller coalition were proud to call themselves "Talmudic Commonwealthsmen"? The beheading of Charles I came directly from the Mishrac tradition. <br /><br />I don't know how things get confusing but Sir Thomas Symthe titled his study of Tudor government as a "Republic" before Cromwell. He called it "republica Anglorum". How can Tudor government be a republic and Oliver's revolution a republic? How can a "republic" teach two different things on what it means to have order?W.LindsayWheelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06236577164127792348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post-61071104836286176832014-09-19T19:59:58.404-07:002014-09-19T19:59:58.404-07:00Dear Dead Reckoning,
This matter needs more atten...Dear Dead Reckoning,<br /><br />This matter needs more attention that I'm able to dedicate at this time. Due to lack of time and focus I've been offering leads more than full reports lately in hopes that others who have the time may flesh them out.<br /><br />There are extensive records of Aaron of Lincoln's dealings with king and prelate. A search for "Aaron's Exchequer" will get you going.Maurice Pinayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12398411396371959771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post-62499090755554177812014-09-18T12:40:54.694-07:002014-09-18T12:40:54.694-07:00Sounds like another very informative newsletter bu...Sounds like another very informative newsletter but . . <br /><br />@ Pinay - Regarding your post concerning Judaic financing of Lincoln Cathedral - I make the following comment and pose 2 questions:<br /><br />Since Hoffman is in part, pointing out the historical mistakes of Hilaire Belloc . . . (I have not read very many of Belloc's works, but amongst more orthodox Catholics of my parents' age - Belloc and Chesterton are considered beyond reproach) - <br /><br />Anyhow, I was told that at one point Belloc had made the comment that when he asked a Judaic visitor to England or France what he thought of the great Cathedrals, the allegedly Judaic man responded to the effect that they were 'wonderful AND were built with Jewish money, or finance' words to that effect. <br /><br />I always wondered what role, if any, Judaic finance had in the building of the great gothic cathedrals and from what I am seeing here - their money had plenty to do with Lincoln Cathedral.<br /><br />1. Do you have any specific source material for what you attribute to Bishop St. Hugh cutting deals with Judaic money lenders to finance the cathedral. <br /><br />From the Wikipedia entries on both the Bishop and Aaron of Lincoln - Aaron's wealth may have been greater than the King of England and Aaron made a specialty out of financing abbey construction AND that all his wealth was confiscated by the King upon his death for being a usurious moneylender. <br /><br />As far at the Bishop - his entry states he put down and stopped mob violence against Jews in Lincoln but nothing about his dealings with Aaron. <br /><br />2. One further item and this I would be particularly interested in. Did Judaic finance play a role in the construction of France's greatest Cathedrals - specifically Notre Dame de Chartres? Might that have anything to do with particular Masonic and alchemist interest in Chartres cathedral?<br /><br />If Judaic finance is responsible for such construction, then that history should come out. Both in fairness to those who bankrolled the project and to inform those of us who love the great Cathedrals. This is a another layer of history that should be noted and publicized. If Lincoln Cathedral was built by money 'earned' by a usurer from the backs of the poor - that too should be noted. <br /><br /><br /><br /> this topicThe Real History behindDead Reckoninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05595554376941722892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21240636.post-51440942955868897842014-09-17T22:09:32.225-07:002014-09-17T22:09:32.225-07:00"… the Stuart dynasty's deep ties to Juda...<i>"… the Stuart dynasty's deep ties to Judaic finance and control."</i><br /><br />---<br /><br />… and the Church itself in England which was heavily indebted to Judaic moneylenders for its projects even in the medieval era. Aaron of Lincoln, a 'Rothschild' of his day (his wealth was apparently 3/4 of that of the Monarchy), financed many Catholic 'great works' including Lincoln Cathedral. This came with the same kind of strings attached that we see in our own times. There were medeival versions of Cardinal O'Malley, et al. I have in mind specifically Bishop St. Hugh of Lincoln.<br /><br />A true shepherd knows that the borrower is slave to the lender and would not put his flock under Shylock's yoke, then defend Shylock from his flock's grumbling. <br /><br />I'll have the faith. Hugh and Aaron can keep their 'great works.'<br /><br />Maurice Pinayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12398411396371959771noreply@blogger.com