Wednesday, June 03, 2009

Bishop Fellay on the case of Bishop Williamson (video)


Michael Hoffman's Comment on the Interview:

His (extensive) videotaped opening remarks address the case of SSPX Bishop Richard N. Williamson. In his remarks, SSPX Superior General Bernard Fellay does not mention the revolutionary new Catholic "Shoah" theology introduced by "Pope John Paul the Great" and confirmed and expanded by his papal successor. Bishop Fellay seems oblivious to this powerfully subversive alien dogma and the extent to which Bishop Williamson's doubts about Auschwitz execution gassings is a very necessary bulwark against it.

What protest does Bishop Fellay have concerning the Archbishop of Paris and Cardinal Sean O'Malley of Boston stating that so-called "Holocaust deniers" cannot be Catholic? Bishop Fellay says nothing. Is this not extraordinary, to be silent toward such a revolutionary new criterion for being Catholic?

Is not the Shoah theology at least as pernicious, if not more so, than the Bugnini theology?  Why then the claim that Bishop Williamson's struggle against it is a mere distraction that detracts from the mission of the Church? 

Bishop Fellay appears to reduce Bishop Williamson's principled stand on this issue to a strictly abstruse historiographical realm, when the spiritual combat over the Talmudic subversion of the Roman Church by means of the newly minted Shoah dogma is of critical importance to the survival of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.


13 comments:

James said...

I hope that some of the SSPX clergy are talking about the New Catholic "Shoah" Theology, although if they are it appears to me to be from behind closed doors. I have strong reason to suspect that they are under a gag order of sorts, explicitely stated, or implicitely understood. Of the numerous pamphlets headlining Mr. Hoffman's extremely important essay "The New Catholic 'Shoah' Theology: Alibi for the Revolutionary Overthrow of the Gospel of Jesus Christ" which I have sent to SSPX clergy (with an accompanying letter), I have received absolutely zero feedback from any of them except for a particular bishop who thanked me profusely and spoke of it in an admirable way!

JBP

Anonymous said...

Bishop Fellay is going to lead them all right into the mouth of the lion. This is the sixties all over again for me.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Abdul Alhazred said...

Remember what your judeophilic religion teaches: "Salvation is from the Jews." -Jesus

You people claim that judaism pronounces racial supremacism(which it does), yet christianity also spiritually exalts jews over gentiles, thus creating a mentality and environment favorable for jewish development at the expense of the non-jews of course.

Away with it all. Whether its a crucified jewish god or gassed jewish gods the goyim will believe whatever these scam-artists concoct for mass consumption.

Ban the truth.

Anonymous said...

The CDF's Magisterial document "Dominus Iesus" stands firm. In no wise has what is known in Lefebvrist or sedevecantist circles as "Shoah theology" undermined the Church's Divine commission from Our Lord (and please spare me the Jerusalem Post article that puts words in the Pope's mouth that he didn't say). There is a relationship between Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate, just as there is an organic relationship between all the Vatican II documents. It's one thing to scream "Heretic!" at Protestants during the 16th Century, but that sort of "convert or die" pastoral strategy doesn't work so effectively when directed at Protestants several hundred years later, many of whom were raised in a Protestant home with Protestant religious instruction; consequently, they can't be considered formal heretics if they don't know the nature of what they're rejecting (please note how Lumen Gentium refers to Protestant communions as ecclesial communities rather then "Churches" since they don't have a valid Eucharist). In like manner, screaming "perfidious!" at jews who really don't know anything of Christ or His Church (or the nature of rabbinic rejection thereof) isn't conducive to conversion. Pastoral strategies, like disciplinary laws, can be changed by The Church. One would do well to read Pope Benedict XVI's book, "Jesus of Nazareth." In it you will find the Holy Father attempting to instruct Rabbi Neusner as to the "why" of the judaic rejection of The Messiah. Like a surgeon who knows that cutting out a cancer won't stop it from coming back, he's forsaking the scalpel in order to discover the biochemical roots of the cancer. This is a very visible attempt at subtle correction (I believe Pope Benedict XVI's book made the Times bestseller list). As the Lefebvrists try to swallow their incense-inspired bile, they should ask themselves how many jews Archbishop Lefebvre converted? Since its inception, how many jews did the SSPX and its four bishops convert? How many jews did the SSPV or CMRI convert? You wil find jews in the RCIA programs at your local Catholic church -- of course, since so many reading this have convinced themselves that only they are the Church and remain firmly in their Catholic ghetto, they wouldn't know this. "Bugnini theology"? This very notion only exists in the errant mind. The history of the Consilium's work is deeper and more complex than "Bugnini vs. Ottaviani" or "freemasons vs. stalwart bishops." In all fairness, why don't you quote the entire Novus Ordo Good Friday Prayer for the Jews, the second part of which contains the following:

"Listen to your Church as we pray that the people you first made your own may arrive at the fullness of redemption. We ask this through Christ Our Lord. Amen."

As the second part (which is rarely ever quoted in Lefebvrist circles) makes clear, the jews have fallen short of the "fullness of redemption."

Moreover, the liturgical reform predates Vatican II be many, many decades. Interested readers should acquire "The Mass of the Future" and "The Mass in Transition," both by Gerald Ellard, S.J. and both written long before Vatican II. In it you'll see photos and read descriptions of what would now be known as "Novus Ordo" celebrations in many dioceses. A liturgical change was in the mind of the Church long before it was codified in Vatican II. Does anyone know that, liturgically speaking, there are many Eastern rites that have different Eucharistic prayers for every day of the week? Hence the four Eucharistic prayers of the Novus Ordo Missae (three of which are direct variants of Eastern rites). The Catholic Church is far more than the Roman or Western rite. Until this is grasped, Lefebvre's erroneous ecclesiology will continue to confirm the confused in their error. The only difference between Lefebvre and Hans Kung is that Kung didn't try to start his own parallel Magisterium (which is what episocopal consecration without papal mandate does).

Anonymous said...

Mr. Hoffman,
why would you post Alzhared's comment without rebuttal?

James said...

Anonymous, as regards the last sentence of your 4:06 P.M. post which reads, "The only difference between Lefebvre and Hans Kung is that Kung didn't try to start his own parallel Magisterium (which is what episocopal consecration without papal mandate does)" please be advised that the SSPX is NOT a "parallel Magisterium." You are making a claim that no conciliar pope has ever made unless it was made privately and thus without any great significance. The irony of your public (i.e., Internet) claim is that in making it you yourself are acting (and I stress the word "acting") as your own Magisterium and an anonymous Magisterium at that!

James B. Phillips

Anonymous said...

The true purpose of the ‘Holocaust’ is becoming clear. It is more than any lust for reparation money or martyrdom. It is more than a ‘greater evil’ to mask the horrendous crimes of the Allies in WW2.
The big H story has steadily morphed from ‘look what the nasty Nazi’s did’ to ‘look what the nasty Germans did’ (Hitler’s Willing Executioners). It goes from blaming Pope PiusXII (Hitler’s pope) to blaming all Catholics and by extension all white Christians of European decent. (Roosevelt and Churchill didn’t do enough to save them)
It doesn’t matter if your relatives fought to defeat the Nazi’s or not, you’re getting a Holocaust museum before you get a war memorial.
So just pay-up and die off.

Prodinoscopus said...

I fear that Bishop Fellay is answering to his new masters now. Mark well that Bishop Fellay states definitively (albeit reluctantly) that Bishop Williamson will not exercise any episcopal function even within the SSPX itself (to say nothing of the larger Church) until he recants his views concerning the "Holocaust".

What do conservative apologists like Anon 4:06 have to say about these novel criteria for episcopal ministry and even for membership in the Church?

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:06 has no clue what Catholicism is.

Henry said...

This man (Bernard Fellay) is, I suspect, a moral coward. He talks of Bishop Williamson's sole function as being one of simply upholding the faith, yet, unlike Williamson, he chooses to ignore the bleeding obvious regarding the sacred Holocaust and Christianity, that is: The "faith" he claims he'd give his life for, is being destroyed and replaced by this false idol, which comes complete with six million new Christ's for us all to meekly worship and follow.

The "Holocaust" has been used by various Jewish interests to undermine and reorder western peoples and society. Its happening, real or otherwise, was the catalyst which brought together the destructive evil of the various schools of Talmudic pseudo-science - From Boasian anthropology to Freudian corruptions in psychology, to the insane Frankfurt Yeshiva Of Social Engineering.

Through this strategy, western Europeans everywhere have been shamed into accepting that a love of tradition, culture, education, and family life are merely symptoms of a mental illness which finally found horrible expression behind the gates of what is now a tourist attraction called "Auschwitz."

Today, Christians are expected to repent for things that they have not done. Acceptance of this fallacy is a rejection of truth - But Bishop Fellay says "truth" is fundamental to his faith.

Reclining in front of a grand fireplace and calling himself "Excellency" might give Fellay a sense of importance, but as he sits in his splendid hideaway the world outside is morphing into hellish Babylon,

It is Bishop Williamson who has tried to keep the faith in Christ, while Fellay chooses to break bread and parley with those who reject Christ.

By rejecting Bishop Williamson, Fellay has rejected faith in Jesus Christ.

I'm sure "Rabbi" Fellay must feel well at home, with the silver-tongued paymasters of Judas.

Anonymous said...

Fellay is on the sell-out trail so why should he bother about Shoah Theology?

Henry said...

One final thought regarding Bishop Williamson: Given that his mentor and founder of SSPX, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, was the son of a man who died in the Nazi concentration camp at Sonnenberg, I think it highly likely that Williamson's well known and long held opinions on the Holocaust and Jewry in general, are more in keeping with Lefebvre's own opinions, and that it is in fact Fellay who is taking a stand contrary to the position formerly held by the SSPX and its founder.

Anonymous said...

"Moreover, the liturgical reform predates Vatican II be many, many decades. Interested readers should acquire "The Mass of the Future" and "The Mass in Transition," both by Gerald Ellard, S.J. and both written long before Vatican II. In it you'll see photos and read descriptions of what would now be known as "Novus Ordo" celebrations in many dioceses. A liturgical change was in the mind of the Church long before it was codified in Vatican II. Does anyone know that, liturgically speaking, there are many Eastern rites that have different Eucharistic prayers for every day of the week? Hence the four Eucharistic prayers of the Novus Ordo Missae (three of which are direct variants of Eastern rites). The Catholic Church is far more than the Roman or Western rite. Until this is grasped, Lefebvre's erroneous ecclesiology will continue to confirm the confused in their error..."
The Modernist were planning the destruction of the Church well before Vatican II? Well,what an insight! That St. Pius X foresaw this calamity even in his day is well known and that no less a Personage than Our Blessed Mother would come (to Fatima) to warn the world of the hellish consequences of this Great Apostasy is just as well known..except to all those as lost as you.
Immcaculate Heart of Mary, be Thou our Refuge!!